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Steady 12:59 Sun Dec 12
Gender pronoun
Can someone explain what gender pronoun is/means please? I noticed someone in my company has added (she/her) to their email signature. The person in question has a standard female name and is a woman so why would they need to add she/her?

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master 1:03 Sun Dec 12
Re: Gender pronoun
It helps you identify that person as a fuckwit that you shouldn't bother interacting with.

Pagey 1:07 Sun Dec 12
Re: Gender pronoun
Haha! I think master has nailed it perfectly there.

Mattie Mulshun 1:34 Sun Dec 12
Re: Gender pronoun
master 1:03 Sun Dec 12
End of thread

Mike Oxsaw 1:42 Sun Dec 12
Re: Gender pronoun
Is this not the new, non-exclusive "Sent from my iPhone" that everybody can use without giving the game away?

meat curtains 1:43 Sun Dec 12
Re: Gender pronoun
What's a pronoun?

, 2:21 Sun Dec 12
Re: Gender pronoun
Growing up it was obvious from the forename what that individual’s gender was. However some of the forenames used these days don’t seem gender specific so for me the appending of the appropriate pronoun is a big help.

SurfaceAgentX2Zero 2:31 Sun Dec 12
Re: Gender pronoun
comma

Yes, Master has already covered this.

OK_Guy 2:31 Sun Dec 12
Re: Gender pronoun
good luck...

Terminology Surrounding Gender Identity and Expression

Everyone has a gender identity. For some people, their gender identity corresponds with the gender assigned at birth, for others it does not. Gender identities that differ from the sex assigned at birth, including ones beyond the binary, as well as the ways in which we express them, have existed across the world, for as long as life has existed.

However, only recently are we beginning to see a collective understanding of various terms associated with the topic.

This article aims to provide a non-exhaustive list of concepts and terminology associated with gender identity and expression.

Gender identity refers to a person’s understanding and experience of their own gender. Everyone has a gender identity; for some people, it corresponds with the gender assigned at birth, and for some others, it does not. Gender identities are expansive and do not need to be confined within one collectively agreed-upon term. There is no one authority that dictates the boundaries of gender, except the individual concerned.

Gender expression refers to the ways in which a person chooses to present their gender to the world around them. This can include clothing, mannerisms, pronouns, names, etc. However, it is important to note that while things like names, clothing, and others can be an intentional part of a person’s gender expression, these things also do not necessarily need to have a gender attached to them. This is to say that a person’s gender identity can sometimes inform a person’s gender expression, but a person’s perceived gender expression does not dictate their gender identity.

These basic definitions of the two foundational terms behind modern understandings of gender should provide a baseline understanding of the complexity that comes with gender. As such, definitions for different gender identities and expressions are constantly evolving, and there does not need to be an established definition of a particular gender identity for someone to identify as such.

That being said, definitions can be useful! People can benefit from the sense of belonging that comes with identifying with a collectively used term, and they can help guide people through their gender journey. Additionally, collectively used terminologies can be helpful for societal understanding and acceptance, as well as for advocacy work.

The following is a list of non-exhaustive gender identities, intended to provide a basic introduction to some collectively used terms. Many of these terms have different names, or people who identify within them also identify as other common identities. However, for the sake of brevity, I will only provide basic definitions for each term.

Agender

Agender means that a person identifies as not having a gender. A person who identifies within this term often will consider themselves as either having a type of non-binary gender identity or as not subscribing to any gender identity at all.

Cisgender

Cisgender is commonly used to refer to people who identify exclusively with the gender that they were assigned at birth.

Demigender

Demigender is a term used to partially identify, or feel a connection, to a particular gender. For example, demigirl or demiboy. These identities vary by person but hold in common the fact that there is not a full identification with one gender, only an internal leaning towards it.

Gender Questioning

Gender questioning describes someone who is questioning all or parts of their gender (identity or expression) and does not wish to identify themselves to a specific gender identity.

Gender Fluid

Gender fluid, like gender questioning, is a term that can be used to describe a person’s gender identity, expression, or both. Gender fluid describes a person who moves fluidly between genders, or whose gender shifts over time.

Genderqueer

Genderqueer describes a gender identity that can not be defined as exclusively masculine or feminine. Genderqueer people experience their gender in all unique ways (hence the name). The impossibility of defining the term is part of its appeal for people who identify as genderqueer. The identity can include elements of feminine, masculine, or non-binary identities, or none of these. In part, it can be seen as a rejection of association with a label.

Intergender

Intergender describes a gender identity that is a mix of both masculine and feminine identities. Intergender is not the same as Intersex. Intersex people can identify within any gender identity or expression.

Multi-gender

Multi-gender describes people who hold more than one gender identity. This can be further specified by bigender, trigender, etc.

Non-Binary

Non-Binary is widely used to describe a gender identity that can not be categorized as masculine or feminine. Non-Binary people experience their gender in all different ways. It could be experienced as a combination of male and female, neither male nor female, nor something completely independent of notions of conventional gender identities. Non-Binary is an expansive umbrella term, and many gender identities discussed in this article fall under it.

Pangender

Pangender is a gender identity where a person identifies as all, or many, gender identities. This is similar to Polygender, although Polygender is more limited.

Transgender/Trans

Transgender is used to describe any person who has a gender identity that is different from the gender that they were assigned at birth.

The following describes a number of widely used gender expressions. It is important to repeat that holding a particular gender expression does not dictate a person’s gender identity.

Androgyne/Gender Neutral

Someone who expresses themselves in such a way that they do not wish to be perceived as any one gender.

Boi/Boy/Tomboy

These terms describe someone who expresses themself in a way that is traditionally described as “boyish.”

Butch/masc

Butch, or masc, describes someone who expresses themselves in a way that is traditionally considered “masculine.” While commonly used by female members of the LGBTIQ community, the term can be, and is, used by everyone.

Femme

Femme is used by people who express themselves in a way that is traditionally perceived as “feminine.” Femme can also be used as a gender identity, but it is most commonly used as a term to describe an expression.

Gender Nonconforming

While occasionally used as a gender identity, gender nonconforming is most commonly used to describe a gender expression that is different from cultural stereotypes associated with that person’s perceived gender or their gender assigned at birth.

These are the most basic gender identities and expressions that you would often see spoken about in the media, but it can not be reiterated enough that this list is non-exhaustive. At the end of the day, gender identities and expressions are whatever the people who hold them make of them. Listen to those around you and be attentive to the needs of those around you.

There are a few basic ways in which you can be a more gender-inclusive person.

Pronouns

Pronouns are easily becoming one of the most recognized ways in which people identify their gender and how they want to be referred to, as well as signaling support for a gender-diverse and inclusive world. If it is safe for you to do so, present your pronouns in a public space, such as your office or your email signature, and describe your pronouns when you meet new people.

Just because you are presenting your pronouns, does not mean that others should be expected to do the same. Some people may still be questioning their pronouns or may feel uncomfortable, or unsafe, sharing them in some spaces.

Pronouns are important to respect, but they do not necessarily tell you what a person’s gender identity is. A person who uses she/her pronouns can still be Non-Binary, a person who uses he/they pronouns could identify in a number of different ways. The important thing to remember is that using someone’s preferred pronouns is a show of respect, you don’t need to know everything about the person to use them.

Gender-Neutral Language

Using gender-neutral language where possible (and in some languages, this is not possible at all) is a useful practice for a number of reasons. Not only does it provide a more inclusive space for all gender identities, but it also helps to dismantle millennia-old patterns of patriarchal attitudes. Most language is gendered and has typically elevated male voices, and male positions, upholding patriarchal and misogynistic societal structures. Using gender-neutral language in the workplace, using terms such as chairperson, selectperson, and others helps to send the signal that positions of leadership are for everyone.

In everyday life, getting in the habit of using the word “they,” when you are unsure of a person’s gender, is a good practice. This sends the message that you are an inclusive person, and will help to unlearn some internal biases you may have about our gendered world.

Cultural Gender

It is important to consider gender identities and expressions in a way that matches your own cultural understanding of gender, but it is equally as important to keep in mind the differences in gender across borders. Masculinity and femininity have different presentations, assumptions, and associated words across the world. While gender varies person by person, it also varies on another level culture by culture.

The language described in this article is used in English, as well as in international spaces. While it can be, and is, used frequently in other circles, it is important to remember that our conception of what gender identities and expressions there are, and what they are referred to, vary greatly across the world.

Cultural Third Gender can be found in cultures around the world. They may or may not be seen as a form of gender identity and/or expression. Often, these third genders serve an important role in their respective culture. These people may have significant cultural positions in society, and as such, these genders are seen more as collective cultural genders, rather than individual gender identities or expressions, like the ones discussed previously.

Some examples of cultural third genders are:

Māhū

Māhūs, of indigenous Hawaiian and Tahitian culture, are people who embodied both male and female spirits. These people were often given honorific roles, as their fluidity was seen as a form of spiritual liberation.

Bissu

In Indonesia, the Bissu are priests who either present as male with a female spirit, or vice versa. Their duality of gender allows them to serve as a conductor of spirits, hence their role as priests.

Khawaja Sira

Specific to Pakistan, although close in relation to other cultural third genders in the region, the Khawaja Sira are people who do not identify as male or female and have been seen as “chosen people,” with the ability to give curses or blessings. They commonly serve as gurus.

Two-Spirit

Two-Spirit is a cultural third gender used amongst over 150 indigenous tribes across North America. While the word varied prior to colonization, the meaning remained the same. Two-Spirit individuals refer to people assigned male at birth who go through special rituals to determine if they also hold a female spirit. Similar to other indigenous cultural third genders, Two-Spirit people held an honored role in their societies.

This is certainly not a complete list, and sadly, many cultural third genders were erased after colonization spread a strictly binary view of gender.

Mad Dog 2:38 Sun Dec 12
Re: Gender pronoun
It's pandering to the 5% of fuckwits who are very vocal about the 0.01% of people this actually affects.

And who probably haven't asked for their "help" anyway.

meat curtains 2:41 Sun Dec 12
Re: Gender pronoun
Okey - dokey

Auntie Thermite 3:06 Sun Dec 12
Re: Gender pronoun
No need for all these made up nonsense pronouns in an age where full grown men now wear face hankies in public to distinguish themselves as faggoty hypocondriacs terrified of catching a cold.

Mike Oxsaw 3:17 Sun Dec 12
Re: Gender pronoun
Food-gender = fat fuck ventriloquist.

Feed Me Chicken 3:28 Sun Dec 12
Re: Gender pronoun
Basically this generation of youth/20 somethings are fucking everything up that was good about the western world. This is the latest! Also i shit you not you can label yourself a flexitarian which means you sometimes eat meat and sometimes you don’t, i.e a normal person who isn’t interested in getting involved in all this bullshit.

Mike Oxsaw 3:35 Sun Dec 12
Re: Gender pronoun
You're nobody if you ain't got a label.

penners28 3:37 Sun Dec 12
Re: Gender pronoun
Saw one friday with he, him, they, theirs

This country has lost the plot mate

Mad Dog 3:54 Sun Dec 12
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Auntie Thermite 3:06 Sun Dec 12

You mean people obeying the law?

Auntie Thermite 6:13 Sun Dec 12
Re: Gender pronoun
“Submission is identified not with cowardliness, but with virtue, rebellion not with heroism, but with evil.

To the Roman slave owners, Spartacus was not the hero and obedient slaves were not cowards. Spartacus was not a hero, and obedient slaves were virtuous.
The obedient slaves believed this also.

The obedient always think about themselves as virtuous, rather than cowardly."

Robert Anton Wilson, The Illuminatus!

Mad Dog 6:17 Sun Dec 12
Re: Gender pronoun
Fuckwit

Auntie Thermite 6:25 Sun Dec 12
Re: Gender pronoun
Well argued mad dog...








You illiterate philistine

gph 6:25 Sun Dec 12
Re: Gender pronoun
Had to put my preferred pronouns twice now.

Very tempted to put Your Highness/Your Highness'...

But chicken out and put he/his.

Why do you have to put two, anyway? Does anyone put he/her, or she/his?

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